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21.02.2026, 17:50
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#102
21.02.2026, 18:26
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AW: Re: Die tollen Schachprogramme von Arne Bailliere
thank you Major Chaos! Tal got away there! how do you ge the annotations in the game before uploading or during entry? I dont really know how to do that here yet .
Geändert von ArneB (21.02.2026 um 18:34 Uhr) 
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#103
21.02.2026, 18:37
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Re: Die tollen Schachprogramme von Arne Bailliere
Hi Arne,
I use the Analyse feature within Fritz 17 or Chessbase using Stockfish 17 and save it as a PGN before posting. I then open the PGN in Arena and copy it to the forum. Clive
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#104
21.02.2026, 19:15
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AW: Die tollen Schachprogramme von Arne Bailliere
After several tries trying to find an Elo level that could serve for calibraiton on the Mephisto Phoenix , I decided to give it another try. Untill now The Chessmind Fisher personality at 1800 elo , which means the engine searched 9 ply deep and provides 10 moves (10 mulit Pv, successively beath the elo levels 2000, 2100, 2200 for Stockfisch on the Mephisto Phoenix in 15 minute games. But there is some uncertainty as to whether these elo levels include errors or randomness on purpose. which does apparently not work so well vs the Chessmind plan- based GM style system even at limited depth . Then i tried the 2200 Hiarcs elo level but here too the Chessmind Fischer 1800 personality , with some dificulty though, eventually prevailed.
So i decided to switch strategy , and have the opponent level set to Hiarcs fixed depth 9, no elo limit no time limit. Since Chessmind Fischer at 1800 elo is also limited to 9 ply fixed depth , at least we should not be unsure whether the UCI limit strength or other hardcoded randomness should intervene in the play. So hiarcs could calculate everything untill ply 9 and then make a move, which sometimes took 2 minutes or more . Unfortunately we could not finish the whole game since a the same time i discovered a bug in the clock in the Play mode: The time kept running even after Hiarcs made a move ! But by that time .... the position was crushing again for the Fischer 1800 elo Chessmind Personality . There was a wild 27 ...b5 (!?) move by Chessmind Fisher, giving away a pawn, but at the same time making sure (i think) that the black pawn chain in the Q Side could no longer be attacked. I am unsure on how to interpet this all and will keep on testing.
[Event "ChessMind Play Mode: Fixed ply 9 Challenge "]
[Site "ChessMind"] [Date "2026.02.21"] [Round "?"] [White "Hiarcs 14.2 - Phoenix"] [Black "Chessmind Fischer"] [Result "0-1"] 1. c4 g6 2. Nc3 Bg7 3. d4 Nf6 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. h3 e5 7. d5 Na6 8. Be3 Ne8 9. Qb3 f5 10. exf5 gxf5 11. Bg5 Nf6 12. Be2 Bd7 13. O-O Nc5 14. Qc2 Qe8 15. Rae1 Nfe4 16. Nxe4 Nxe4 17. Be3 Nf6 18. a3 Nh5 19. Ng5 Bf6 20. Bxh5 Qxh5 21. Ne6 f4 22. Nxf8 Rxf8 23. Bd2 Bxh3 24. f3 Bf5 25. Re4 Be7 26. Rc1 Rf7 27. Rce1 b5 28. cxb5 Bf6 29. Qc4 Rg7 30. R4e2 Bh3 31. Qc6 h6 32. Qc3 Qg6 33. g4 h5 34. Kh1 hxg4 35. Bxf4 gxf3 36. Qxf3 Bg4 37. Qg2 exf4 0-1
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#105
22.02.2026, 08:41
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AW: Die tollen Schachprogramme von Arne Bailliere
 Zitat von ArneB
But there is some uncertainty as to whether these elo levels include errors or randomness on purpose.
For the calibration of the ELO Levels I see two main problems. First, you need a lot of games to estimate the ELO rating. I'd say 20 games to estimate an ELO with deviance of +-100 which is still a lot. Because you want to test not only one rating, one opponent and one setup the best way would be to do the testing automated, either by implementing a UCI or xboard interface to GUI or engine. The second problem is that the ELO values on different websites and of different Engines with adjustable strength don't match each other at all. If you want to calibrate to human or FIDE ELO, IMHO the ELO of the dedicated units mentioned on this page match best. You can use the engines of CB-Emu for calibration. If you implement uci or xboard interface to the engine you can do this automated within Arena. I did a lot of testing in the past. The ELO levels of Shredder and HIARCS are well calibrated. Both only reduce the calculated nodes and do not blunder on purpose. Here are the tests: https://open-chess.org/viewtopic.php?p=17735#p17735 Geändert von AlexS (22.02.2026 um 08:59 Uhr)
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#106
22.02.2026, 13:23
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AW: Die tollen Schachprogramme von Arne Bailliere
Thank You Alex! to day we continued the testing with the 9 ply Challenge . This time the Chessmind Capablanca personality vis Hiarcs 14.2 both at fixed depth 9 ply, to find out how the plans system influences move selection. i have also added a selected printout form the Terminal output t offer a peek behinde the system. I mus say a tthis point, I am discoverign as much as everybody else how a ll the components are converging into one system.
there is one last update underway to fix the screen rendering issues once and for all and then i will have to stop working on the project before my girlfirend kills me. We will need a new name though, so if anyone has suggestions pleas feel free to share your ideas.
[Event "ChessMind Play Mode fixed Ply challenge "]
[Site "ChessMind"] [Date "2026.02.22"] [Round "?"] [White "Capablanca 1800"] [Black "Hiarcs"] [Result "1-0"] 1. d4 d6 2. Nc3 g6 3. e4 Bg7 4. Nf3 a6 5. Bd3 Nd7 6. a4 c5 7. d5 Ne5 8. Nxe5 Bxe5 9. Bg5 Nf6 10. O-O Bd7 11. f4 Bd4+ 12. Kh1 Qb6 13. Ne2 h6 14. Bh4 g5 15. Be1 Ng4 16. Rf3 Bf6 17. Bc4 gxf4 18. Rb3 Qc7 19. Nxf4 Rg8 20. h3 Ne5 21. Be2 Bg5 22. Nh5 Ng6 23. Bc3 Nf4 24. Nxf4 Bxf4 25. Bc4 Rg3 26. Bd2 Rxb3 27. cxb3 Be5 28. Qf3 Bxb2 29. Rf1 Bf6 30. Qh5 b5 31. e5 bxc4 32. exf6 e5 33. bxc4 Qb7 34. Ba5 Rc8 35. Kh2 Rc7 36. Qxh6 Bf5 37. Rxf5 Qc8 38. Qh7 Qd8 39. Bxc7 Qxc7 40. Qg8+ Kd7 41. Qxf7+ Kc8 42. Qxc7+ Kxc7 43. f7 Kb6 44. Kg3 Ka5 45. Kh4 Kxa4 46. Kg5 Kb4 47. f8=Q Kxc4 48. g4 1-0
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#107
22.02.2026, 14:46
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AW: Die tollen Schachprogramme von Arne Bailliere
Zitat von ArneB
there is one last update underway to fix the screen rendering issues once and for all and then i will have to stop working on the project before my girlfirend kills me. Freundinnen sind wichtig, und haben meistens recht. Schenke ihr einen Blumenstrauß  Aber lieber keinen Schachcomputer.  
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#108
22.02.2026, 18:34
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Re: Die tollen Schachprogramme von Arne Bailliere
And here is the second game.
Palm Hiarcs plays faultlessly and does not give Tal a chance.
[Event "ChessMind Play Mode"]
[Site "ChessMind"] [Date "2026.02.22"] [Round "?"] [White "Tal"] [Black "Palm Hiarcs 12"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "B95"] [WhiteElo "2727"] [BlackElo "2680"] [Annotator "Major_Chaos"] [PlyCount "72"] [EventDate "2026.??.??"] {[%evp 15,71,19,8,-32,-27,-21,-19,-25,56,60,34,52,51,53,70,34,30,-69,-54,-173,-112,-277,-275,-379,-223,-384,-349,-432,-339,-349,-350,-451,-415,-582,-589,-703,-708,-756,-760,-747,-701,-698,-697,-29991,-29992,-29992,-29993,-29993,-29994,-29994,-29995,-29995,-29996,-29996,-29997,-29998,-29999,-29999]} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qf3 Nbd7 8. O-O-O Qc7 9. Rg1 b5 10. a3 Bb7 11. g4 {[%cal Bg2g4,Bg4g5][%mdl 32] The position is equal.} Be7 {[%cal Of6e4]} (11... h6 $5 {[%cal Rh6g5]} 12. Bxf6 Nxf6 $15) 12. Bxf6 Nxf6 13. g5 Nd7 14. h4 O-O 15. Qe3 Qb6 16. Rd2 b4 17. Nb1 Rac8 18. Rd3 $2 {[#]} (18. axb4 $17 {was called for.} Qxb4 19. c3) 18... Nc5 $19 {[%csl LRd3,LRe4]} 19. Rd1 Nxe4 (19... Bxe4 $142 20. Bg2 bxa3 21. Nxa3 d5 22. Bxe4 Nxe4) 20. Rd3 $2 (20. axb4 Qxb4 21. Rg4) 20... a5 21. Rd1 bxa3 22. Nxa3 d5 23. Rd3 {Against Rc3} Bc5 24. Bg2 (24. Rb3 {keeps fighting.} Bb4 25. Bd3) 24... e5 25. Nab5 Ba6 26. Nf5 Bxe3+ 27. Rxe3 Qxb5 28. Ne7+ Kh8 {And now ...Qa4 would win.} 29. Rg3 {[#]} Rxc2+ $3 {Black mates.} 30. Kxc2 Qe2+ 31. Kc1 Qd2+ 32. Kb1 Rb8 {[%csl Gb8][%cal Rd2b2]} 33. Ng6+ fxg6 {[%csl Gb8][%cal Rd2b2]} 34. b3 Bd3+ 35. Ka1 Rxb3 {[%cal Rb3a3]} 36. Rg4 Ra3# {Weighted Error Value: White=0.66/Black=0.20 (precise)} 0-1
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