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AW: ChessSystemTal2-v21 unbesiegbar?
Ich hatte eben einmal einen Sprichwörtlichen Blitztest zwischen Stockfish 17,1 und Tal2v21 E 1162-130 -EAS.opt-avx2.

Das sollte auch nur ein grober Überblick werden, auch um die erweiterten Funktionen testen.

60 Züge in 2min. mit Powerbook 2022, jeweils nur 1 Thread, 256 MB Hash,

Meine vorherigen Ergebniss basierten alle auf Partien ohne Buch, die dann auch immer ähnlich abliefen, und deswegen wohl auch immer die Remise.

Überraschenderweise stand es nach 4 Partien 3:1 für Stockfish , der jeweils seine Partien mit Weiß gewann, und alle anderen gingen als Remis aus.

In diesen Spielen mit nur wenigen Sekunden Bedenkzeit/Zug erreichte Stockfish immer deutlich höhere Rechentiefen, Blitzschach liegt dem CS TAL 2 wohl nicht so.

Ich finde das Ergebniss allerdings nicht sehr aussagekräftig, einiges hängt auch vom Buch ab, und am Wochenende werde ich vielleicht noch etwas mit längerer Bedenkzeit probieren.
Obwohl Kurt und Nick da ja schon so etliches zusammengetragen haben

Partie 1

[Event "ATELCO-2, 2min/60"]
[Site "ATELCO-2"]
[Date "2026.01.29"]
[Round "1"]
[White "CS TAL 2 v21"]
[Black "Stockfish 17.1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D97"]
[PlyCount "162"]
[TimeControl "60/120:30/60:30/60"]

{AMD Ryzen 5 4600G with Radeon Graphics 3693 MHz W=26.9 plies; 967kN/s; PowerBook 2022.ctg B=54.6 plies; 1.440kN/s; PowerBook 2022.ctg} 1. d4 {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 2. Nf3 {B 0} g6 {B 0} 3. c4 {B 0} Bg7 {B 0} 4. Nc3 {B 0} d5 {B 0} 5. Qb3 {B 0} dxc4 {B 0} 6. Qxc4 {B 0} O-O {B 0} 7. e4 {B 0} Na6 {B 0} 8. Be2 {B 0} c5 {B 0} 9. d5 {B 0} e6 {B 0} 10. O-O {B 0} exd5 {B 0} 11. exd5 {B 0} Re8 {B 0} 12. Bf4 {B 0} Bf5 {B 0} 13. Rad1 {B 0} Ne4 {B 0} 14. Nb5 {B 0} g5 {B 0 Beide letzter Buchzug} 15. Be3 {1.11/18 4} Qf6 {0.72/25 4 (Dd8-d7)} 16. Nd2 {1.30/20 4} Rad8 {0.75/26 0} 17. Nxe4 {0.79/19 3} Rxe4 {0.69/26 0} 18. Qc3 {1.26/20 2} Bg4 {0.47/29 8 (Te4-a4)} 19. Bxg4 {0.77/20 3} Rxg4 {0.44/25 0} 20. Qxf6 {0.47/19 3 (Le3-c1)} Bxf6 {0.21/22 2} 21. d6 {0.17/20 5} Bxb2 {0.26/28 0} 22. Nxa7 {0.26/20 3 (a2-a3)} h6 {0.10/30 2} 23. f4 {0.36/24 7 (Td1-b1)} gxf4 {0.05/23 2} 24. Bxf4 {0.38/24 3} c4 {0.07/26 1} 25. h3 {0.32/26 3} Rg6 {0.05/29 0} 26. Nb5 {0.51/23 2} Nb4 {-0.01/28 0} 27. Rd2 {0.41/24 5 (Tf1-f3)} Nd3 {0.01/34 3 (Lb2-f6)} 28. Rc2 {0.56/22 2} c3 {0.00/36 1} 29. a3 {0.35/24 5} Nxf4 {0.00/42 0} 30. Rxf4 {0.46/26 5} Rg5 {0.00/41 0} 31. a4 {0.46/27 2} Rd5 {0.00/40 0} 32. Nxc3 {0.42/24 2 (Kg1-f2)} Bxc3 {-0.04/33 2} 33. Rxc3 {0.46/27 2} R5xd6 {0.00/43 1} 34. Rc7 {0.32/26 3} R6d7 {0.00/42 1 (Td8-d7)} 35. Rxd7 {0.46/24 4} Rxd7 {0.00/50 0} 36. Rg4+ {0.20/25 3 (Tf4-b4)} Kh7 {-0.02/37 3} 37. Rb4 {0.20/26 2} Kg6 {0.00/41 1} 38. Rb6+ {0.14/22 2 (Kg1-f2)} f6 {0.00/56 4} 39. Rb4 {0.00/26 6} h5 {0.00/61 0} 40. Kh2 {0.00/27 2 (h3-h4)} Kg5 {0.00/72 4} 41. h4+ {0.00/31 1} Kf5 {0.00/59 1} 42. Rb5+ {0.00/32 2 (Kh2-g3)} Kg4 {0.00/75 5 (Kf5-g6)} 43. Rb6 {0.00/29 1 (Tb5-b4+)} Kf5 {0.00/74 5} 44. Rb5+ {0.00/32 0 (Tb6-b4)} Kg6 {0.00/66 6} 45. g3 {0.00/35 3 (Kh2-h3)} Rd4 {0.00/78 4 (Td7-d2+)} 46. a5 {0.00/32 1} Rd2+ {0.00/67 2 (Td4-a4)} 47. Kh1 {0.00/34 2 (Kh2-h3)} Rc2 {0.00/79 5 (Td2-d3)} 48. Kg1 {0.00/32 1 (Tb5xb7)} Rd2 {0.00/73 5 (Tc2-c3)} 49. Kh1 {0.00/4 0 (Tb5xb7)} Ra2 {0.00/81 5} 50. Kg1 {0.00/35 2} Ra1+ {0.00/68 3 (Ta2-a3)} 51. Kg2 {0.00/34 1} Ra2+ {0.00/78 2 (Ta1-a3)} 52. Kg1 {0.00/4 0 (Kg2-h3)} Ra3 {0.00/77 5} 53. Kf2 {0.00/35 1 (Kg1-g2)} Ra1 {0.00/77 7 (Kg6-h6)} 54. Kg2 {0.00/4 0} Ra3 {0.00/81 5} 55. Kf2 {0.00/4 0 (Kg2-h3)} Ra4 {0.00/67 5} 56. Ke3 {0.00/31 4 (Kf2-g2)} Ra2 {0.00/78 6 (Ta4-g4)} 57. Kd4 {0.13/24 2 (Ke3-f3)} Ra3 {0.00/61 3 (Ta2-a1)} 58. Kc5 {0.13/22 2 (Tb5xb7)} Rxg3 {0.00/44 3} 59. Rxb7 {0.00/25 2} Ra3 {0.00/52 1} 60. Kb5 {0.00/29 2 (Tb7-b5)} Kf5 {0.00/46 2 (f6-f5)} 61. Rc7 {0.00/19 2} Rb3+ {0.00/48 0} 62. Ka4 {0.00/27 6} Rb8 {0.00/59 0} 63. Rc4 {0.00/29 1} Ke5 {0.00/70 2} 64. Rc5+ {0.00/31 6} Kf4 {0.00/61 0 (Ke5-e4)} 65. Rxh5 {0.17/23 1} Kg4 {0.00/61 1 (Tb8-a8)} 66. Rh7 {0.00/28 1} f5 {0.00/57 0} 67. a6 {0.00/30 2} f4 {0.00/63 1} 68. Rf7 {0.00/32 2 (a6-a7)} f3 {0.00/62 2} 69. Ka5 {0.00/34 3 (a6-a7)} Rb2 {0.00/66 3 (Tb8-b3)} 70. h5 {0.00/29 2 (a6-a7)} Rh2 {0.00/61 3 (Tb2-a2+)} 71. Rg7+ {0.00/29 3} Kf4 {0.00/64 1} 72. Rh7 {0.00/32 3 (Tg7-f7+)} f2 {0.00/70 4} 73. Rf7+ {0.00/34 2} Ke3 {0.00/65 1} 74. h6 {0.00/34 3 (a6-a7)} Rh5+ {0.00/74 4 (Th2xh6)} 75. Kb6 {0.00/35 2} Rxh6+ {0.00/63 0} 76. Kb5 {0.00/35 4} Rh3 {0.00/60 0 (Th6-h5+)} 77. a7 {0.00/30 1 (Kb5-b6)} Rh8 {0.00/75 5} 78. Kb6 {0.00/37 2 (Kb5-c6)} Ra8 {0.00/61 3} 79. Kb7 {0.00/40 5} Rxa7+ {0.00/61 3} 80. Kxa7 {0.00/52 1} Ke2 {0.00/75 1} 81. Rxf2+ {0.00/54 2} Kxf2 {0.00/63 0 Remis angenommen} 1/2-1/2



Partie 2

[Event "ATELCO-2, 2min/60"]
[Site "ATELCO-2"]
[Date "2026.01.29"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Stockfish 17.1"]
[Black "CS TAL 2 v21"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D97"]
[PlyCount "179"]
[TimeControl "60/120:30/60:30/60"]

{AMD Ryzen 5 4600G with Radeon Graphics 3693 MHz W=59.9 plies; 1.580kN/s; PowerBook 2022.ctg B=32.0 plies; 1.280kN/s; PowerBook 2022.ctg} 1. d4 {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 2. Nf3 {B 0} g6 {B 0} 3. c4 {B 0} Bg7 {B 0} 4. Nc3 {B 0} d5 {B 0} 5. Qb3 {B 0} dxc4 {B 0} 6. Qxc4 {B 0} O-O {B 0} 7. e4 {B 0} Na6 {B 0} 8. Be2 {B 0} c5 {B 0} 9. d5 {B 0} e6 {B 0} 10. O-O {B 0} exd5 {B 0} 11. exd5 {B 0} Re8 {B 0} 12. Bf4 {B 0} Bf5 {B 0} 13. Rad1 {B 0} Ne4 {B 0} 14. Nb5 {B 0} g5 {B 0 Beide letzter Buchzug} 15. Be3 {0.72/27 5} Qf6 {0.82/18 3} 16. Nd2 {0.65/31 13} Rad8 {1.03/24 6} 17. b3 {0.53/31 10 (Le2-d3)} h6 {1.09/19 3} 18. Nxe4 {0.41/30 1} Rxe4 {1.02/20 2} 19. Qc1 {0.49/31 1} Nb4 {1.13/22 4} 20. Qxc5 {0.38/31 0} b6 {1.17/21 3} 21. Qc1 {0.26/28 1} Nxa2 {1.10/21 2} 22. Qa3 {0.32/30 3} Nc3 {0.98/22 3} 23. Nxc3 {0.33/29 0} Qxc3 {0.89/23 2} 24. Bc4 {0.16/25 1} Be5 {0.89/21 3 (Dc3-a5)} 25. Qxa7 {0.85/20 1} b5 {0.86/23 2} 26. Be2 {0.94/25 0 (Lc4xb5)} Kg7 {1.01/18 3} 27. Qb6 {0.99/31 4 (Le2xb5)} Rb8 {0.00/25 2} 28. Qa7 {1.03/29 1} Rd8 {0.00/27 0} 29. Bf3 {1.16/26 1} Rh4 {1.21/19 2} 30. g3 {1.02/28 1} Rb4 {1.12/20 2} 31. d6 {1.21/24 0} Be6 {1.68/21 4 (Lf5-h3)} 32. Qb6 {1.14/26 2} Bf6 {2.32/23 5} 33. Bd5 {1.26/28 1} Bxd5 {2.39/23 2} 34. Rxd5 {1.17/26 1} Rd7 {2.20/25 2} 35. Rfd1 {1.17/27 1} Rxb3 {2.23/25 2} 36. Rxb5 {1.08/27 1} Rb2 {2.22/27 2 (Tb3-a3)} 37. Rxb2 {1.39/23 3} Qxb2 {2.43/27 3} 38. Qc6 {1.37/30 0} Qb3 {2.57/23 2 (Db2-b7)} 39. Rd2 {1.56/28 3} Qb7 {2.43/24 3} 40. Qc2 {1.66/29 0} Qb4 {2.34/24 2 (Db7-f3)} 41. Qd3 {1.67/33 10} Qa5 {2.57/27 9} 42. Kg2 {1.98/29 0 (Dd3-e4)} Qa8+ {2.88/22 7 (Da5-e5)} 43. Qd5 {2.15/26 4} Qe8 {2.96/24 1 (Da8xd5+)} 44. Bd4 {2.51/25 2 (h2-h3)} Bxd4 {2.47/22 1} 45. Qxd4+ {2.61/24 1} Kg6 {2.19/25 8 (Kg7-g8)} 46. Qd3+ {3.07/24 3 (Dd4-d5)} Kg7 {2.83/19 1} 47. Qd5 {3.10/26 2} Qd8 {2.63/22 1 (Kg7-g6)} 48. Qe5+ {2.92/27 3 (f2-f4)} Qf6 {3.04/24 1 (Kg7-h7)} 49. Qxf6+ {4.43/23 2} Kxf6 {3.17/28 3} 50. Kf3 {4.43/25 0} Kf5 {3.59/28 4} 51. h3 {4.83/29 0} Kf6 {3.25/25 1 (Kf5-e5)} 52. Kg4 {5.13/25 3} Kg6 {3.25/29 1} 53. h4 {5.18/27 2 (f2-f4)} f5+ {4.64/22 1} 54. Kf3 {5.06/30 2} Kf6 {5.70/24 2} 55. hxg5+ {5.03/45 5} Kxg5 {6.40/28 0 (h6xg5)} 56. Rd4 {5.80/26 4 (Td2-d5)} Kf6 {7.23/26 1} 57. Kf4 {6.05/30 5} Ke6 {8.18/29 4} 58. Rd1 {6.28/28 1} Kf6 {8.18/30 0} 59. Rd2 {6.46/26 6 (f2-f3)} Ke6 {7.78/22 0} 60. f3 {6.49/26 3} Kf6 {8.26/34 2} 61. Rh2 {6.57/26 1} Rh7 {8.25/34 3 (Kf6-g6)} 62. d7 {6.72/26 1} Rxd7 {8.22/34 4} 63. Rxh6+ {7.06/30 0} Kg7 {8.30/32 4} 64. Rh5 {7.06/42 0} Kg6 {8.31/26 2} 65. Rg5+ {7.30/30 1} Kh6 {8.30/30 11 (Kg6-h7)} 66. Rxf5 {7.76/26 2} Rd4+ {9.22/25 2} 67. Ke3 {7.81/33 0} Rd6 {9.08/28 2 (Td4-d8)} 68. f4 {7.96/30 3 (g3-g4)} Rb6 {9.37/22 3 (Kh6-g6)} 69. Kf3 {8.23/30 2} Kg6 {10.32/24 1 (Tb6-b3+)} 70. Kg4 {8.32/35 3} Ra6 {10.59/24 1 (Tb6-c6)} 71. Re5 {8.42/24 2 (Tf5-b5)} Kg7 {10.99/25 1 (Kg6-f6)} 72. f5 {8.98/28 2 (Kg4-g5)} Kf6 {11.10/27 3 (Kg7-f7)} 73. Re6+ {#22/75 4 (Te5-e4)} Rxe6 {11.25/33 1} 74. fxe6 {#19/102 2} Kxe6 {12.00/44 1 (Kf6-g6)} 75. Kg5 {#18/109 4} Kd6 {12.36/33 1 (Ke6-f7)} 76. Kf6 {#15/115 4 (g3-g4)} Kc7 {12.95/30 1 (Kd6-d7)} 77. g4 {#14/106 4} Kd8 {#19/44 0 (Kc7-d7)} 78. Kf7 {#13/100 4 (g4-g5)} Kc7 {13.38/21 2 (Kd8-d7)} 79. Ke6 {#12/121 4 (g4-g5)} Kb6 {12.95/23 1 (Kc7-c6)} 80. g5 {#11/127 3} Kc5 {#13/39 0} 81. Ke5 {#10/128 3 (g5-g6)} Kb5 {#10/47 0 (Kc5-c4)} 82. g6 {#9/190 3} Kc4 {#8/67 0} 83. g7 {#8/216 2} Kc3 {#7/60 0 (Kc4-d3)} 84. g8=Q {#7/245 2} Kd3 {#6/50 0} 85. Qb3+ {#6/245 1} Ke2 {#5/58 0} 86. Ke4 {#5/245 0 (Ke5-f4)} Kf2 {#4/76 1} 87. Kf4 {#4/245 0 (Db3-g8)} Kg2 {#3/116 1 (Kf2-e2)} 88. Qa2+ {#3/245 1 (Db3-c2+)} Kg1 {#2/116 0 (Kg2-f1)} 89. Kf3 {#2/245 1} Kf1 {#1/116 0} 90. Qa1# {#1/245 0} 1-0



Partie 3

[Event "ATELCO-2, 2min/60+1min/30+1min/30"]
[Site "ATELCO-2"]
[Date "2026.01.29"]
[Round "3"]
[White "CS TAL 2 v21"]
[Black "Stockfish 17.1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E05"]
[PlyCount "148"]
[TimeControl "60/120:30/60:30/60"]

{AMD Ryzen 5 4600G with Radeon Graphics 3693 MHz W=26.6 plies; 918kN/s; PowerBook 2022.ctg B=47.1 plies; 1.068kN/s; PowerBook 2022.ctg} 1. d4 {B 0} d5 {B 0} 2. Nf3 {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 3. c4 {B 0} e6 {B 0} 4. g3 {B 0} Be7 {B 0} 5. Bg2 {B 0} O-O {B 0} 6. O-O {B 0} dxc4 {B 0} 7. Qc2 {B 0} a6 {B 0} 8. Qxc4 {B 0} b5 {B 0} 9. Qc2 {B 0} Bb7 {B 0} 10. Bd2 {B 0} Be4 {B 0} 11. Qc1 {B 0} Bb7 {B 0} 12. Bf4 {B 0} Bd6 {B 0} 13. Nbd2 {B 0} Nbd7 {B 0} 14. Nb3 {B 0} Bd5 {B 0} 15. Rd1 {B 0} Qe7 {B 0} 16. Ne5 {B 0} Bxg2 {B 0} 17. Kxg2 {B 0} Nd5 {B 0} 18. Nc6 {B 0} Nxf4+ {B 0} 19. Qxf4 {B 0} Qe8 {B 0} 20. Qf3 {B 0 Beide letzter Buchzug} e5 {0.45/27 5} 21. dxe5 {1.24/20 3 (Df3-f5)} Nxe5 {0.28/25 2} 22. Nxe5 {0.99/23 2} Qxe5 {0.25/26 1} 23. Rd2 {1.23/23 3} Bb4 {0.17/25 0 (Ld6-e7)} 24. Rc2 {1.11/19 3} c5 {0.12/26 0 (Ta8-c8)} 25. a3 {1.34/23 2} c4 {0.12/27 0} 26. axb4 {1.34/24 2} cxb3 {0.11/26 2} 27. Qxb3 {1.15/21 4 (Tc2-c3)} h6 {0.04/25 3} 28. Rd2 {1.23/24 3 (h2-h4)} Rad8 {0.00/39 3 (De5-e7)} 29. Qd1 {1.02/23 3 (Ta1-d1)} Rxd2 {0.15/28 4} 30. Qxd2 {0.99/27 6} Re8 {0.05/31 0} 31. Kf1 {1.08/25 4} Qf5 {0.00/35 0} 32. Rc1 {0.64/23 5} Qh3+ {0.00/38 0 (Df5-g5)} 33. Kg1 {1.28/21 2} Qe6 {0.07/32 2} 34. e3 {1.26/26 2} Qe7 {0.04/28 0 (De6-f6)} 35. Rc5 {1.14/23 2 (Tc1-c6)} Rd8 {0.00/36 3} 36. Qc2 {1.18/26 6} Qd7 {0.00/42 0 (De7-e6)} 37. Qe4 {1.26/23 3} Qd3 {0.00/43 1} 38. Qe7 {0.88/27 4 (De4-b7)} Qd7 {0.00/37 5} 39. Qe4 {0.00/23 0} Qd3 {0.00/41 2} 40. Qe7 {0.00/4 0} Qd7 {0.00/43 4} 41. Qh4 {0.71/24 5 (De7-e5)} Qd3 {0.00/48 4} 42. Qf4 {0.53/26 8} Qd6 {0.00/46 0 (Dd3-b1+)} 43. Qxd6 {0.60/23 3 (Df4-f5)} Rxd6 {0.00/39 4} 44. Rc2 {0.48/28 2 (Tc5-c3)} Rd3 {0.00/43 6} 45. Rc3 {0.36/29 7} Rd2 {0.02/52 0} 46. b3 {0.30/26 3} Kh7 {0.00/43 10 (f7-f6)} 47. h4 {0.52/25 3 (Kg1-g2)} h5 {0.09/44 5} 48. Kf1 {0.25/33 11 (Tc3-c5)} g6 {0.00/71 5} 49. Rc6 {0.05/27 1 (Kf1-g2)} Rd3 {0.00/50 3 (Td2-a2)} 50. Rxa6 {0.43/30 1} Rxb3 {0.00/56 1} 51. Rf6 {0.44/30 0 (Kf1-g2)} Kg7 {0.00/57 5} 52. Rf4 {0.41/30 0} f5 {0.00/56 6 (Tb3-b2)} 53. Ke2 {0.00/25 1} Kf6 {0.00/60 3} 54. f3 {0.00/30 2 (Tf4-d4)} Rb2+ {0.00/57 5} 55. Kd3 {0.00/32 2 (Ke2-e1)} Rg2 {0.00/43 5 (Kf6-e5)} 56. Rd4 {0.00/31 2} Rxg3 {0.00/71 3} 57. f4 {0.00/34 2} Ke6 {0.00/63 3 (Tg3-h3)} 58. Rd8 {0.00/32 2} Rg4 {0.00/56 2 (Tg3-h3)} 59. Rb8 {0.00/31 2} Rxh4 {0.00/59 6} 60. Rxb5 {0.00/33 1} Rh1 {0.00/58 3} 61. Rb6+ {0.00/34 3 (Kd3-e2)} Kf7 {0.00/51 2} 62. Ke2 {0.00/34 2 (Tb6-b7+)} Rh2+ {0.00/50 3} 63. Kf3 {0.00/35 3} h4 {0.00/57 0 (Th2-b2)} 64. b5 {0.00/34 3} Rh3+ {0.00/62 1} 65. Ke2 {0.00/36 4} Rh2+ {0.00/58 0} 66. Kf3 {0.00/39 4} Rb2 {0.00/69 0} 67. Rb8 {0.00/33 1} Kg7 {0.00/55 0} 68. Rb7+ {0.00/38 7} Kg8 {0.00/65 0} 69. Rb8+ {0.00/37 1} Kh7 {0.00/61 1} 70. Rb7+ {0.00/37 2} Kg8 {0.00/58 0 (Kh7-h6)} 71. Rb8+ {0.00/4 0} Kg7 {0.00/68 5} 72. Rb7+ {0.00/4 0 (Tb8-b6)} Kh6 {0.00/68 9} 73. Rb8 {0.00/38 2 (b5-b6)} Kh7 {0.00/72 9} 74. Rb7+ {0.00/4 0 (Tb8-b6)} Kg8 {0.00/64 10 Remis angenommen} 1/2-1/2



Partie 4

[Event "ATELCO-2, 2min/60+1min/30+1min/30"]
[Site "ATELCO-2"]
[Date "2026.01.29"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Stockfish 17.1"]
[Black "CS TAL 2 v21"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E05"]
[PlyCount "155"]
[TimeControl "60/120:30/60:30/60"]

{AMD Ryzen 5 4600G with Radeon Graphics 3693 MHz W=42.5 plies; 1.269kN/s; PowerBook 2022.ctg B=30.1 plies; 1.048kN/s; PowerBook 2022.ctg} 1. d4 {B 0} d5 {B 0} 2. Nf3 {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 3. c4 {B 0} e6 {B 0} 4. g3 {B 0} Be7 {B 0} 5. Bg2 {B 0} O-O {B 0} 6. O-O {B 0} dxc4 {B 0} 7. Qc2 {B 0} a6 {B 0} 8. Qxc4 {B 0} b5 {B 0} 9. Qc2 {B 0} Bb7 {B 0} 10. Bd2 {B 0} Be4 {B 0} 11. Qc1 {B 0} Bb7 {B 0} 12. Bf4 {B 0} Bd6 {B 0} 13. Nbd2 {B 0} Nbd7 {B 0} 14. Nb3 {B 0} Bd5 {B 0} 15. Rd1 {B 0} Qe7 {B 0} 16. Ne5 {B 0} Bxg2 {B 0} 17. Kxg2 {B 0} Nd5 {B 0} 18. Nc6 {B 0} Nxf4+ {B 0} 19. Qxf4 {B 0} Qe8 {B 0} 20. Qf3 {B 0 Beide letzter Buchzug} f5 {1.07/20 5} 21. Rac1 {1.00/23 5 (e2-e3)} f4 {0.58/19 5 (Kg8-h8)} 22. g4 {1.05/24 2} Qg6 {1.41/21 2 (h7-h6)} 23. h4 {0.79/26 6} Kh8 {1.77/24 3 (Sd7-f6)} 24. Nd2 {1.14/24 2 (Kg2-h3)} Nf6 {1.91/21 2} 25. Kh3 {1.16/23 1} h5 {1.83/21 2} 26. g5 {1.37/26 1} Nd5 {1.96/23 4 (Sf6-g4)} 27. Qe4 {1.32/24 4 (Kh3-g2)} f3 {1.53/19 2} 28. e3 {1.47/24 0} Rf5 {1.86/22 3} 29. Rg1 {1.50/29 0 (Sc6-e5)} a5 {2.16/17 2 (Ta8-f8)} 30. Ne5 {1.72/26 3} Bxe5 {2.33/23 3} 31. dxe5 {1.81/27 0} Kh7 {2.42/18 0 (a5-a4)} 32. Nb3 {1.85/26 3} Rxg5 {2.76/24 2} 33. Qxg6+ {2.06/24 2} Rxg6 {2.63/23 0} 34. Rxg6 {2.23/23 2} Kxg6 {2.64/27 3} 35. Nd4 {2.05/28 0} Nb4 {2.83/25 5 (Ta8-c8)} 36. Nxe6 {2.58/25 3 (Kh3-g3)} Nd3 {2.24/20 2 (Sb4xa2)} 37. Nf4+ {2.79/21 2 (Tc1-c6)} Nxf4+ {3.03/22 3} 38. exf4 {3.12/26 1} Rd8 {4.44/25 14} 39. Kg3 {3.65/30 0} Rd2 {4.37/23 6 (Td8-d7)} 40. Kxf3 {3.93/25 3} Rxb2 {5.12/21 3} 41. e6 {4.53/22 0} Kf6 {5.76/25 6} 42. f5 {4.84/25 1} Rb4 {6.15/23 2} 43. Re1 {5.38/21 3} Ke7 {6.75/25 3} 44. Rd1 {5.48/21 0} Rg4 {7.23/22 4} 45. Rd7+ {5.49/24 2} Ke8 {7.95/23 3 (Ke7-f8)} 46. Rxc7 {5.70/21 6} a4 {8.40/26 6 (Ke8-f8)} 47. Ke3 {5.73/22 4} Kf8 {8.87/26 4 (b5-b4)} 48. f3 {6.11/25 6 (Tc7-f7+)} Rg2 {8.65/20 2 (Tg4-b4)} 49. Rf7+ {6.42/24 7} Kg8 {10.85/26 4 (Kf8-e8)} 50. Rb7 {6.71/23 5} Kf8 {11.57/26 1} 51. Rb8+ {6.68/22 2} Ke7 {11.50/23 0} 52. Rxb5 {6.88/24 5} Rxa2 {12.55/26 6} 53. Rb7+ {7.17/23 2} Kf8 {11.71/25 3} 54. Rf7+ {7.18/26 3} Kg8 {13.72/26 1} 55. Ra7 {7.26/22 4} Kf8 {13.90/26 1} 56. Kf4 {7.30/27 5} Rg2 {14.18/26 1 (Ta2-h2)} 57. Rxa4 {7.50/24 8} Ke7 {12.88/25 0} 58. Ra7+ {7.60/25 6} Ke8 {14.86/26 0 (Ke7-d6)} 59. f6 {8.35/24 6} gxf6 {16.13/26 0} 60. Kf5 {9.11/22 3} Rg3 {16.54/24 0} 61. f4 {9.17/21 2} Rg4 {16.96/26 6} 62. Rf7 {9.33/28 0} Rxh4 {17.34/21 2 (Ke8-d8)} 63. Rxf6 {10.37/20 2} Rh1 {17.60/24 3 (Ke8-e7)} 64. Rf7 {77.04/25 4 (Tf6-h6)} Rf1 {17.67/20 2} 65. Ke5 {67.69/25 2} Ra1 {17.86/23 5 (Ke8-d8)} 66. f5 {#20/44 5} Kd8 {18.62/23 4 (Ta1-a6)} 67. Kf6 {#18/41 3 (Tf7-h7)} Ra6 {18.79/24 3} 68. Rh7 {#17/43 0} Kc8 {19.31/21 4 (h5-h4)} 69. Kf7 {#15/47 5 (Th7xh5)} Ra7+ {22.16/20 5} 70. e7 {#12/51 0} Kc7 {22.94/20 3 (Kc8-b7)} 71. e8=Q {#11/60 3 (Th7xh5)} Kb6+ {#13/24 1} 72. Kg6 {#10/72 1 (De8-e7)} Ra6 {#12/28 1 (Ta7xh7)} 73. f6 {#7/79 3} h4 {#6/61 0 (Ta6-a3)} 74. Rh5 {#5/163 3} Kc7 {#4/108 0} 75. Qe7+ {#4/245 1} Kb6 {#3/116 0} 76. Qe6+ {#3/245 0 (De7-d6+)} Ka7 {#2/116 0 (Kb6-c7)} 77. Rh7+ {#2/245 1} Ka8 {#1/116 0} 78. Qg8# {#1/245 0} 1-0

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Sorry to (maybe) make you sad, but there is no way a Mephisto II can ever beat current Stockfish version.

Maybe you know there is an UCI compatible Rebel Century program? Well, more accurately, a Winboard version one can use with Wb2UCI adapter. What matters is: it can run full speed on any modern CPU. An Ed Schröder gift to the chess community.

A large match (1000 games) has been performed: the year 2000 Rebel Century (so muuuuuuch stronger than the Mephisto II) on fast hardware facing Stockfish with 1000:1 time odds.
Rebel Century: 30 minutes for the game + 30 seconds increment/move
Stockfish: 1.8 seconds for the game + 0.03 seconds increment/move

The result: Stockfish won 896, drew 96, lost 8.
+442 Elo performance for SF.
source

Set any time odds you want in favor of Mephisto II, guess the result...
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The Problem is, that the old Rebel Century has no NNUE, while Stockfish 17 has. Therefore the Test seems to be a little unfair. I'd like to know how the result had been, if NNUE is not activated or if it were an older version of stockfish. Just my 2 cent...
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The Problem is, that the old Rebel Century has no NNUE, while Stockfish 17 has. Therefore the Test seems to be a little unfair. I'd like to know how the result had been, if NNUE is not activated or if it were an older version of stockfish. Just my 2 cent...
You are right the last Stockfish version that allowed you to turn it off was 15.1
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You are right the last Stockfish version that allowed you to turn it off was 15.1
Rather v16...

Code:
Stockfish 16 by the Stockfish developers (see AUTHORS file)
uci
id name Stockfish 16
id author the Stockfish developers (see AUTHORS file)

option name Debug Log File type string default
option name Threads type spin default 1 min 1 max 1024
option name Hash type spin default 16 min 1 max 33554432
option name Clear Hash type button
option name Ponder type check default false
option name MultiPV type spin default 1 min 1 max 500
option name Skill Level type spin default 20 min 0 max 20
option name Move Overhead type spin default 10 min 0 max 5000
option name Slow Mover type spin default 100 min 10 max 1000
option name nodestime type spin default 0 min 0 max 10000
option name UCI_Chess960 type check default false
option name UCI_AnalyseMode type check default false
option name UCI_LimitStrength type check default false
option name UCI_Elo type spin default 1320 min 1320 max 3190
option name UCI_ShowWDL type check default false
option name SyzygyPath type string default 
option name SyzygyProbeDepth type spin default 1 min 1 max 100
option name Syzygy50MoveRule type check default true
option name SyzygyProbeLimit type spin default 7 min 0 max 7
option name Use NNUE type check default true
option name EvalFile type string default nn-5af11540bbfe.nnue
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Removed in v16.1
Code:
Stockfish 16.1 by the Stockfish developers (see AUTHORS file)
uci
id name Stockfish 16.1
id author the Stockfish developers (see AUTHORS file)

option name Debug Log File type string default
option name Threads type spin default 1 min 1 max 1024
option name Hash type spin default 16 min 1 max 33554432
option name Clear Hash type button
option name Ponder type check default false
option name MultiPV type spin default 1 min 1 max 256
option name Skill Level type spin default 20 min 0 max 20
option name Move Overhead type spin default 10 min 0 max 5000
option name nodestime type spin default 0 min 0 max 10000
option name UCI_Chess960 type check default false
option name UCI_LimitStrength type check default false
option name UCI_Elo type spin default 1320 min 1320 max 3190
option name UCI_ShowWDL type check default false
option name SyzygyPath type string default 
option name SyzygyProbeDepth type spin default 1 min 1 max 100
option name Syzygy50MoveRule type check default true
option name SyzygyProbeLimit type spin default 7 min 0 max 7
option name EvalFile type string default nn-b1a57edbea57.nnue
option name EvalFileSmall type string default nn-baff1ede1f90.nnue
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The Problem is, that the old Rebel Century has no NNUE, while Stockfish 17 has. Therefore the Test seems to be a little unfair. I'd like to know how the result had been, if NNUE is not activated or if it were an older version of stockfish. Just my 2 cent...
Hi Hartmut,
this test aimed at showing what the evolution of software has been across 25 years, 2000 to 2025. Hence SF 17 during this test was the latest dev version (nov. 25). Indeed using NNUE.

Castrating SF of NNUE would have been irrelevant. NNUE is not a problem, it is current software technology. And shy attempt to fairness was the 1000:1 time odds in favor of Rebel Century. Unfair? Nope. Yet definitely not enough for the year 2000 Rebel to survive the match. Hence a clear illustration for the breakthrough chess software achieved - NNUE being a large step forward, I agree.

By the way, reading that you expected more information, there is a link in my above post. Maybe you missed it. (look for: 'source').
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Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: ChessSystemTal2-v21 unbesiegbar?
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Rather v16...

Code:
Stockfish 16 by the Stockfish developers (see AUTHORS file)
uci
id name Stockfish 16
id author the Stockfish developers (see AUTHORS file)

option name Debug Log File type string default
option name Threads type spin default 1 min 1 max 1024
option name Hash type spin default 16 min 1 max 33554432
option name Clear Hash type button
option name Ponder type check default false
option name MultiPV type spin default 1 min 1 max 500
option name Skill Level type spin default 20 min 0 max 20
option name Move Overhead type spin default 10 min 0 max 5000
option name Slow Mover type spin default 100 min 10 max 1000
option name nodestime type spin default 0 min 0 max 10000
option name UCI_Chess960 type check default false
option name UCI_AnalyseMode type check default false
option name UCI_LimitStrength type check default false
option name UCI_Elo type spin default 1320 min 1320 max 3190
option name UCI_ShowWDL type check default false
option name SyzygyPath type string default 
option name SyzygyProbeDepth type spin default 1 min 1 max 100
option name Syzygy50MoveRule type check default true
option name SyzygyProbeLimit type spin default 7 min 0 max 7
option name Use NNUE type check default true
option name EvalFile type string default nn-5af11540bbfe.nnue
uciok
Removed in v16.1
Code:
Stockfish 16.1 by the Stockfish developers (see AUTHORS file)
uci
id name Stockfish 16.1
id author the Stockfish developers (see AUTHORS file)

option name Debug Log File type string default
option name Threads type spin default 1 min 1 max 1024
option name Hash type spin default 16 min 1 max 33554432
option name Clear Hash type button
option name Ponder type check default false
option name MultiPV type spin default 1 min 1 max 256
option name Skill Level type spin default 20 min 0 max 20
option name Move Overhead type spin default 10 min 0 max 5000
option name nodestime type spin default 0 min 0 max 10000
option name UCI_Chess960 type check default false
option name UCI_LimitStrength type check default false
option name UCI_Elo type spin default 1320 min 1320 max 3190
option name UCI_ShowWDL type check default false
option name SyzygyPath type string default 
option name SyzygyProbeDepth type spin default 1 min 1 max 100
option name Syzygy50MoveRule type check default true
option name SyzygyProbeLimit type spin default 7 min 0 max 7
option name EvalFile type string default nn-b1a57edbea57.nnue
option name EvalFileSmall type string default nn-baff1ede1f90.nnue
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This is what I found:

Stockfish 15.1 and earlier versions generally allowed disabling NNUE (Efficiently Updatable Neural Networks) via the Use NNUE UCI option, returning to the "classical" evaluation function. Stockfish 16 (released June 2023) removed the handcrafted classical evaluation entirely, making NNUE mandatory and disabling the ability to switch it off.

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That's indeed what ChatGPT says. Did you ever heard about AI hallucinations?
I better trust:
1) the UCI options list
2) the fact I keep using SF16 with NNUE disabled for some analysis matters, aside to SF17. And the difference on the field is clear, whether enabled or disabled.
3) check here. Someone posted an "issue" about disabling NNUE with SF16, but stood corrected by an official maintainer from the SF team. The requester was using a DEV version, not the official SF16. Dev version led to SF16.1, where the disable NNUE was removed, as I stated in my previous post.

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That's indeed what ChatGPT says. Did you ever heard about AI hallucinations?
I better trust:
1) the UCI options list
2) the fact I keep using SF16 with NNUE disabled for some analysis matters, aside to SF17. And the difference on the field is clear, whether enabled or disabled.
3) check here. Someone posted an "issue" about disabling NNUE with SF16, but stood corrected by an official maintainer from the SF team. The requester was using a DEV version, not the official SF16. Dev version led to SF16.1, where the disable NNUE was removed, as I stated in my previous post.

As a given, I am always right, Nick, don't you know that?
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Re: ChessSystemTal2-v21 unbesiegbar?
Hi Eric

Just for your info, I also did a search using Bing AI (not just Google). The information comes from Chessprogramming Wiki:

Hybrid
In August 2020 a new patch changed Stockfish NNUE into a hybrid engine: it uses NNUE evaluation only on quite balanced material positions, otherwise uses the classical one. It could speed up to 10% and gain 20 Elo [39]. At that point, NNUE helped to increase already around 100 Elo for Stockfish. In the same month, Stockfish changed the default mode of using evaluation functions from classic to hybrid one, the last step to completely accept NNUE. With Stockfish 16 release in 2023 the hand-crafted evaluation function was removed, a complete transition to NNUE based evaluation was made.

This is where the search engines AI's get their information from.

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Re: ChessSystemTal2-v21 unbesiegbar?
Da ich auf diesem hohen Spielniveau viele Unentschieden beobachte, wollte ich herausfinden, ob dies normal ist. Da es in diesem Zusammenhang um das Schachprogramm Tal 2 geht, habe ich es als Beispiel gewählt und die 60 top Gegner aus der 40/15-Elo-Rangliste von CCRL herangezogen.

Seine Wertung bei CCRL für 40/15 beträgt 3583 ELO.

Siehe Tabelle unten:

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~~~~~~~~~CHESS PROGRAM~~~~~~~~~		~ELO~	~~~SCORE~~~	~Won~	~Lost~	~Draw~	~Total~	~PERF.~
– **Stockfish 17.1 64-bit 4CPU		3645	12.5*−*17.5	0	5	25	30	41.70%
– **PlentyChess 7.0.0 64-bit 4CPU	3643	11*−*19		0	8	22	30	36.70%
– **Stockfish 16 64-bit 4CPU		3640	12*−*17		0	5	24	29	41.40%
– **Stockfish 16.1 64-bit 4CPU		3638	26*−*36		0	10	52	62	41.90%
– **Torch v4 64-bit 4CPU		3638	12.5*−*17.5	0	5	25	30	41.70%
– **ShashChess GZ 64-bit 4CPU		3636	12.5*−*19.5	0	7	25	32	39.10%
– **Torch v3 64-bit 4CPU		3635	12.5*−*17.5	0	5	25	30	41.70%
– **Obsidian 16.0 64-bit 4CPU		3635	12*−*18		0	6	24	30	40.00%
– **Torch v2 64-bit 4CPU		3632	16.5*−*19.5	0	3	33	36	45.80%
– **Torch v1 64-bit 4CPU		3630	17.5*−*26.5	0	9	35	44	39.80%
– **Stockfish 15.1 64-bit 4CPU		3629	13.5*−*18.5	0	5	27	32	42.20%
– **Dragon by Komodo 3.3 64-bit 4CPU	3626	25.5*−*36.5	0	11	51	62	41.10%
– **Obsidian 15.0 64-bit 4CPU		3625	13.5*−*16.5	1	4	25	30	45.00%
– **Dragon by Komodo 3.2 64-bit 4CPU	3624	13*−*19		0	6	26	32	40.60%
– **Obsidian 14.0 64-bit 4CPU		3621	13*−*17		0	4	26	30	43.30%
– **PlentyChess 5.0.0 64-bit 4CPU	3621	13*−*17		1	1	24	26	43.30%
– **PlentyChess 4.0.1 64-bit 4CPU	3618	13*−*17		0	4	26	30	43.30%
– **Berserk 13 64-bit 4CPU		3617	32*−*33		0	1	64	65	49.20%
– **Integral v7 64-bit 4CPU		3617	14*−*16		0	2	28	30	46.70%
– **Alexandria 8.0.0 64-bit 4CPU	3617	13*−*17		0	4	26	30	43.30%
– **Caissa 1.21 64-bit 4CPU		3615	13.5*−*16.5	0	3	27	30	45.00%
– **Horsie 1.1 64-bit 4CPU		3615	12.5*−*17.5	0	5	25	30	41.70%
– **Stormphrax 7.0.0 64-bit 4CPU	3613	13*−*17		0	4	26	30	43.30%
– **PlentyChess 3.0.1 64-bit 4CPU	3611	13.5*−*16.5	1	4	25	30	45.00%
– **Ginkgo 5.40 64-bit 4CPU		3609	13*−*17		0	4	26	30	43.30%
– **Obsidian 12.0 64-bit 4CPU		3609	15.5*−*20.5	0	5	31	36	43.10%
– **Alexandria 7.1.0 64-bit 4CPU	3609	13.5*−*16.5	0	3	27	30	45.00%
– **Berserk 12 64-bit 4CPU		3608	27*−*32		2	7	50	59	45.80%
– **Fritz 20 64-bit 4CPU		3608	14*−*16		0	2	28	30	46.70%
– **Halogen 15 64-bit 4CPU		3607	15*−*15		0	0	30	30	50.00%
– **Viridithas 17.0.0 64-bit 4CPU	3606	15*−*15		1	1	28	30	50.00%
– **Starzix 6.0 64-bit 4CPU		3606	14*−*16		0	2	28	30	46.70%
– **Horsie 1.0 64-bit 4CPU		3605	14*−*16		0	2	28	30	46.70%
– **PlentyChess 1.0.0 64-bit 4CPU	3604	16.5*−*19.5	1	4	31	36	45.80%
– **Integral v5 64-bit 4CPU		3604	14*−*16		0	2	28	30	46.70%
– **Alexandria 7.0.0 64-bit 4CPU	3603	15*−*15		1	1	28	30	50.00%
– **Uralochka 3.42a 64-bit 4CPU		3602	14*−*16		0	2	28	30	46.70%
– **RubiChess 20240112 64-bit 4CPU	3601	16*−*19		0	3	32	35	45.70%
– **Caissa 1.17 64-bit 4CPU		3600	18*−*24		0	6	36	42	42.90%
– **Clover 8.0 64-bit 4CPU		3600	14.5*−*15.5	1	2	27	30	48.30%
– **Caissa 1.18 64-bit 4CPU		3600	18*−*18		0	0	36	36	50.00%
– **PlentyChess 2.0.0 64-bit 4CPU	3600	14.5*−*15.5	1	2	27	30	48.30%
– **Ethereal 14.25 64-bit 4CPU		3599	24*−*27		0	3	48	51	47.10%
– **Obsidian 11.0 64-bit 4CPU		3597	17.5*−*18.5	1	2	33	36	48.60%
– **Obsidian 10.0 64-bit 4CPU		3597	15*−*17		0	2	30	32	46.90%
– **Halogen 14 64-bit 4CPU		3596	14*−*14		1	1	26	28	50.00%
– **Caissa 1.16 64-bit 4CPU		3595	14.5*−*17.5	2	5	25	32	45.30%
– **Caissa 1.15 64-bit 4CPU		3592	16*−*16		0	0	32	32	50.00%
– **Titan 1.1.0 64-bit 4CPU		3589	14.5*−*15.5	0	1	29	30	48.30%
– **RubiChess 20230918 64-bit 4CPU	3588	16*−*16		2	2	28	32	50.00%
– **Uralochka 3.41a 64-bit 4CPU		3585	16*−*16		1	1	30	32	50.00%
– **Seer 2.8.0 64-bit 4CPU		3585	17*−*19		1	3	32	36	47.20%
– **Alexandria 6.1.0 64-bit 4CPU	3584	18*−*18		1	1	34	36	50.00%
– **Berserk 11.1 64-bit 4CPU		3584	16*−*16		2	2	28	32	50.00%
– **Caissa 1.14.1 64-bit 4CPU		3583	16*−*16		0	0	32	32	50.00%
– **Lizard 10.4 64-bit 4CPU		3582	14.5*−*15.5	0	1	29	30	48.30%
– **Clover 6.2 64-bit 4CPU		3581	15.5*−*14.5	2	1	27	30	51.70%
– **Obsidian 9.0 64-bit 4CPU		3581	15.5*−*16.5	0	1	31	32	48.40%
– **Stormphrax 6.0.0 64-bit 4CPU	3581	9*−*9		0	0	18	18	50.00%
– **Rebel 16.3 64-bit 4CPU		3579	18*−*18		0	0	36	36	50.00%
TOTAL	AV.							23	195	1813	2031	45.77%
PERFORMANCE				3608			1.13%	9.60%	89.3%		
WON GAMES TOTAL %						10.7%
Wenn man diese CSTal2-Ergebnisse sieht, wird einem erst richtig bewusst, dass man diese Spiele nicht manuell spielen kann und sie nur automatisiert ablaufen lassen kann.

Wenn CSTal2 beispielsweise Ihr Lieblingsprogramm ist, wie viele von Ihnen würden dann 100 Spiele spielen wollen, nur um im Durchschnitt einen einzigen CSTal2-Sieg zu erzielen, oder 23 Siege nach 2031 Spielen?

Selbst mit Stockfish 17.1 werden Sie gegen CSTal2 nur etwa in jedem sechsten Spiel einen Sieg sehen.

Tatsächlich sieht man, wenn man alle Spiele zusammennimmt, im Durchschnitt nur einen Sieg alle 10 Spiele, wenn man Glück hat und es vom Gegner abhängt.

Ich bin so froh, dass es noch dedizierte Schachbrettcomputer gibt!

Der arme CSTal2, nur ein Sieg pro 100 Spielen, was für ein Pech!

Gruss

Nick
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Folgende 2 Benutzer sagen Danke zu spacious_mind für den nützlichen Beitrag:
Egbert (30.01.2026), Tibono (30.01.2026)
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