Thema: Info: Aktivschachliste 2025
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Re: Aktivschachliste 2025

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Hoffentlich werden die Listen bald aktualisiert, um die neuesten Schachcomputer zu berücksichtigen. Dank der Tests von dir, Nick, mir und anderen liegen bereits genügend Partien vor, um eine gute Elo-Schätzung zu erhalten, und sobald weitere Tests durchgeführt werden, kann eine verlässliche Elo-Zahl ermittelt werden.
Hi Tracy,

Unfortunately, as Micha tried to explain, it is never going to really happen unless you get a few other computers around the King strength range. It needs ideally 4-6 computers of similar strength as King and enough games to be able to rate the next one. Vonset is possible as there are enough opponents for it. King when it first came out barely made the list. And to me it is still a surprise but a pleasant one that it made the tournament list:

Tournament List
1 Millennium The King Element 2591 70 (+ 34,= 24,- 12), 65.7 %
Millennium ChessGenius Exclusive 29 (+ 20,= 7,- 2), 81.0 %
Phoenix Revelation II Hiarcs 14.1 1% CPU 41 (+ 14,= 17,- 10), 54.9 %

As you can see it only ever played 2 opponents and if it wasn't for Hiarcs 14.1 1% beating it 10 times it would never have made the list. The gap against Chess Genius alone is too large to make a decent rating.

And so on it goes down the list.

Vonset could probably make the list, by playing King and Hiarcs and King 50 Mhz and ChessGenius Exclusive is doable.

But TCA2 scores against King and Vonset is a stretch because the gap is too great. You need something that gives you a Hiarcs kind of score +14=17-10 which means only a 54.9 percentage over 41 games. Instead of 80-90% performances because the risk is that the next 40 games could end up being 95%.

Ideally you need something (preferably more than one) that is established but slightly higher than King and so on and that does not exist at the moment.

Regards

Nick

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