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CC 7 16.11.2023 11:44

AW: Re: AW: Re: Mess Emulator für diverse Schachcomputer ist fertig!
 
Zitieren:

Zitat von hap (Beitrag 120900)
RadioShack 1650 Fast Response: Concord II, has the 0609V171 MCU

CXG Computachess III: pretty sure it's HD6301V1C42P
Fidelity Genesis: should also have the HD6301V1C42P

CXG Sphinx Comet: wiki says it has a V1, but I'm not sure.

Chess King Triomphe: interesting, here is a photo of the inside http://www.chesscomputeruk.com/html/..._triomphe.html

How about the RadioShack Portable 1650L ?

Is the program also written by Kaare Danielsen ?

RadioShack Portable 1650L is a 100% clone of... ?

Regards
Hans-Jürgen

hap 16.11.2023 12:00

Re: Mess Emulator für diverse Schachcomputer ist fertig!
 
1650L is not HD6301V1.
PCB photos here, epoxy blob, but not enough pins for it to be a 6301.
https://cbcc95.forumactif.org/t66-tandy-1650l

Here it says Kaplan, and 68HC05
https://www.spacious-mind.com/html/portable_1650l.html

Mychess 16.11.2023 12:21

Re: Mess Emulator für diverse Schachcomputer ist fertig!
 
Hello Hap,

The photo is not good, but I can count 40 pins, like the 6301V.
I have a 1680L fast response, with I think the same microcontroller, but I can't play after power on.

Cordially.

Mychess 16.11.2023 14:38

Re: Mess Emulator für diverse Schachcomputer ist fertig!
 
Hello,

It seems that RS-1650L and RS-1680L has the same program (from reading manuals).
Spacious-mind specifiy that RS-1680L has a 6301Y (https://www.spacious-ind.com/html/super_1680l.html) with a 8K ROM.
However, as I wrote it before, its microcontroller (blob) has only 40 pins, the 6301Y has 64 pins and 16K ROM.

The 1680L has 14 levels, plus special levels to checkmate and a "puzzle level" (large win more than 2 pawns), does the enpassant, stalemate,
underpromotion during its search and recognize the draw by immediate threefold repetition : all of this seems to be difficult with only 4K.

So definitly not a 6301V nor 6301Y : I think that RS-1650L and RS-1680L has effectively a 68HC05 with a 8K program.

Cordially.

CC 7 16.11.2023 19:40

AW: Mess Emulator für diverse Schachcomputer ist fertig!
 
Thanks a lot for all these valuable pieces of information !

Just another question about the RadioShack Portable 1750L (which I own)...
is it (more or less) identical to RadioShack Portable 1650L ?

Or a little bit stronger ?

Probably with a program written by Julio Kaplan and Craig Barnes ?

Regards
Hans-Jürgen

Mychess 16.11.2023 20:46

Re: AW: Mess Emulator für diverse Schachcomputer ist fertig!
 
Hello Hans-Jürgen

Seems to be a clone of RS-1680L, but it has 64 levels with differents mode (fun, beginners, aggressive,pratical, fixed deep, brute force, passive and normal), and problem level (> 2 pawns).

See https://www.spacious-mind.com/html/portable_1750l.html
and https://www.manualslib.com/manual/13...ack-1750l.html

Cordially.

hap 18.11.2023 11:17

Re: Mess Emulator für diverse Schachcomputer ist fertig!
 
Neuer ROM dump von Berger: Fidelity CB16 module.

Only 1 byte different when compared to the other dump. I don't know if the other dump is a small bugfix, or that it was a bad dump (changed byte is 0x10 <-> 0x0f, I'm giving more chance to bugfix).

fhub 18.11.2023 16:29

AW: Re: Mess Emulator für diverse Schachcomputer ist fertig!
 
Zitieren:

Zitat von hap (Beitrag 121344)
Neuer ROM dump von Berger: Fidelity CB16 module.

Only 1 byte different when compared to the other dump. I don't know if the other dump is a small bugfix, or that it was a bad dump (changed byte is 0x10 <-> 0x0f, I'm giving more chance to bugfix).

Vielen Dank - Update ist im Anhang (nur neue bzw. geänderte Dateien).

Grüße,
Franz

hap 21.11.2023 21:46

Re: Mess Emulator für diverse Schachcomputer ist fertig!
 
CXG Enterprise S ist emuliert (ist auch Star Chess programm), danke an Sean fur ROM dump.
This is the same HD6301V1 chip that Mychess dumped, but since Sean already planned to do it, I decided to wait for him.

https://i.imgur.com/A58EZ88.png

bataais 22.11.2023 08:22

AW: Mess Emulator für diverse Schachcomputer ist fertig!
 
Das sind ja grossartige Neuigkeiten! Sean Riddle ist ein Held! Ich hoffte schon lange auf einen HD6301V1 dump. Mit dem ROM des Yeno 301 XL / Chess King Counter Gambit könnte ich evtl. meine These, dass Franz Morsch dahinter steckt, besser belegen. ;)

https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...ead.php?t=5539

http://www.chesscomputeruk.com/asset..._1_15_x_15.JPG

Nochmals vielen Dank an alle, Sean Riddle, hap, Mychess, Franz!

PS der Yeno 301 XL verwendet den HD6301X0, mit 192 Bytes RAM, ebenso wie Kittingers Alto / Accord..


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