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Re: Yeno 301XL ein Morsch ?!
Hello,
In order to find the programmer of Chess King Triomphe and Yeno 301XL, does anyone know of programmers who don't use the classic 1 3 3 5 9 piece values? Cordially. |
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Im kürzlich ausgelesenen Yeno 301XL ROM steht an Adresse 0xBBC (sichtbar mit einem Hex-Editor):
(C)1988Bray Dies könnte ein Hinweis auf den Programmierer sein.. Damit wäre meine Morsch-These vom Tisch. Aber auch David Levy's Aussage, der Programmierer heisse Jon Green, (Bray -> Grey -> Green?? ;) ) wäre somit falsch. Gruss, bataais |
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M.E. ist Bray nicht der Autor - sondern dies steht für Bray Research Ltd. Ebenfalls im Jahr 1988 erschien von Atari Mindgames für den Atari ST "Backgammon", (C) Atari Corp. 1988 (C) Bray Research Ltd. 1988 Gruß Hans-Jürgen |
Re: Yeno 301XL ein Morsch ?!
Hello,
Well found, CC7. Also I think that Bray Research Ltd. simply bought the rights to the program created by ICSL for the Chess King/Lansay Triumph ( "(C)1985ICSL" in ROM ). Bray Research Ltd then supplied it with "(C)1988Bray" signature to Yeno for the 301XL. It would be interesting to know the signature in the Counter Gambit ROM and its date. Cordially. |
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In 1985 Kenneth W. Martin founded ICSL, the Integrated Circuits and Systems Laboratory in Southern California. Kenneth W. Martin often worked together with David Johns. In 1988 Dr. Martin founded - no, not Bray Research Ltd. but Snowbush Microelectronics...so maybe I am on the wrong track with Kenneth W. Martin. By the way in the Atari Mindgames series in 1988 also Go-Moku/Renju was published for the Atari ST, (C) 1988 Bray Research Ltd., author unknown. Regards Hans-Jürgen |
Re: Yeno 301XL ein Morsch ?!
ICSL = Intelligent Chess Software Ltd =)
Makes sense since Chess King involved the same people. Intelligent Software went under in 1986 or 1987. Maybe Bray Research was a new company founded by several ex-employees, or the programmer that worked on Triomphe switched jobs to a different software house. BTW the following could mean nothing, since both companies created board games software: Intelligent Software also released a Gomoko/Renju game: https://www.mobygames.com/game/49076/gomoku-renju/ |
Re: Yeno 301XL ein Morsch ?!
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to me it does not look like the 301 XL is a kaare danielsen.
Cause it seems stronger then the 4K Danielsen: [Event "40/120 yeno301 XL"] [Site "SCW"] [Date "2025.05.01"] [Round "1"] [White "Yeno 301 XL"] [Black "Yeno 540 XT"] [ECO "D26"] [Result "1-0"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e3 e6 5. Bxc4 {"} c5 6. O-O Nc6 {"} 7. Nc3 cxd4 8. Nxd4 e5 9. Nxc6 Qxd1 10. Rxd1 bxc6 11. Rd2 Bc5 12. a3 O-O 13. b4 Bb6 14. Rd6 Bd7 15. Ne4 Nxe4 16. Rxd7 Rad8 17. Rd3 Rxd3 18. Bxd3 f5 19. Bb2 Bc7 20. Rc1 Rf6 21. b5 c5 22. f3 Ng5 23. Rxc5 Ne6 24. Bc4 Bb6 25. Rxe5 Kf7 26. Bd4 Bxd4 27. exd4 f4 28. Kf2 Rh6 29. h4 Rf6 30. Re4 h6 31. h5 g5 32. a4 a5 33. bxa6 g4 34. a7 gxf3 35. a8=Q Ke7 36. gxf3 Kd6 37. Rxe6+ Rxe6 38. Qd8+ Kc6 39. Bd5# 1-0 It even seems to have no problem to play against Mephisto II: [Event "40/120 yeno301xl"] [Site "SCW"] [Date "2025.05.03"] [Round "1"] [White "Mephisto IIb 6.1 mhz"] [Black "Yeno 301XL "] [ECO "C87"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 d6 {"} 7. Bxc6+ {"} bxc6 8. d4 exd4 9. Nxd4 Bd7 10. Bg5 Rb8 11. b3 O-O 12. Qd3 c5 13. Nf5 Bxf5 14. exf5 h6 15. Bd2 Rb6 16. Na3 d5 17. Ba5 Rd6 18. f4 Qd7 19. Re2 Re8 20. Rae1 Kh8 {? schade. c4 und schwarz stünde doch besser} 21. Kh1 {Ist wohl ansteckend.} Kg8 22. Nb1 Ne4 23. Nc3 Bh4 24. Rf1 Bf6 25. Nd1 Re7 26. Ne3 Qb5 27. Be1 Qxd3 28. cxd3 Nc3 29. Bxc3 Bxc3 30. Rff2 Bd4 31. Nc2 Bf6 32. Rxe7 Bxe7 33. Re2 Kf8 34. Ne3 c6 35. Ng4 f6 36. Kg1 Ke8 37. Re6 Kd7 38. Re3 d4 39. Rh3 Rd5 40. Rh5 Bf8 41. Kf2 Ke7 42. Kg3 g6 43. Rh3 Rxf5 44. Nxh6 Rh5 45. Rxh5 gxh5 46. Nf5+ Ke6 47. Nh4 Bd6 48. h3 Bc7 49. Ng6 Kf7 50. Nh4 Ke6 51. Ng6 Kf7 52. Nh4 Ke6 53. Ng6 {Mephi reklamiert Remis nach 3 maliger Stellungswiederholung.} Kf7 54. Nh4 1/2-1/2 Also das sieht nicht danach aus als ob der Yeno 4K auf dem Level des Danielsen 4K spielt. Selbst ein Mephi II scheint da Probleme zu haben. |
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