#11
31.12.2013, 11:30
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AW: Behting - Machbar für (Schach-) Computer?
Hallo Wilfried,
yep, exakt richtig. Denn wenn ein Computer die Stellung wirklich verstanden hat, muss die Bewertung 0,00 lauten ... Denn das Motiv liegt ja exakt darin, daß eine Seite eine Dame hat, aber trotzdem nicht gewinnen kann, da die Dame allein nicht reichen kann ... mit anderen Worten: Ein Programm muss in der Lage sein, abstrakte Zusammenhänge zu verstehen. Das wäre ein echter Schritt auf dem Weg zum "menschlichen" Spiel und künstlicher Intelligenz. Grüße, Sascha
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31.12.2013, 12:06
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31.12.2013, 12:30
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31.12.2013, 19:19
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AW: Behting - Machbar für (Schach-) Computer?
In diesem Artikel steht ein interessanter Satz bzgl. Patzer
Zitieren:
Two questions remain: are the current generation of super-duper chess programs still unable to cope with this simple three-move study? (We should mention that there was one, Patzer by Roland Pfister, that solved it years ago – but as Pfister himself admitted, the program contained "special Behting Study code").
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24.02.2023, 00:44
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AW: Behting - Machbar für (Schach-) Computer?
Lieber zu spät als gar nicht
Stockfish 15,1 rechnet bei mir 10 min. an der Studie, erreicht Suchtiefen von über 100 Halbzügen, berechnt 4,2 Millionen Stellungen in der Sekunde, will 1. Sg7+ ziehen , und sieht Schwarz mit knapp 2 Bauerneinheiten im Vorteil.  Von meinen Schachcomputern wird wohl keiner eine Lösung finden , ich könnte mal den Genius Pro darauf ansetzen. (Morgen)
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24.02.2023, 08:51
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Hi,
LC0 TCEC 2022 running with BLAS backend on my old laptop (no GPU) reaches a minuscule 4.6 nps due to the massive 512x15 neural network, nevertheless finds instantly the right move and keeps it after 10 minutes running. On another hand, there is no "understanding" the game is a draw one. Anyway, an impressive "knowledge" achievement! Code:
10:07/8-16: 1.Kc6, 2,8K nodes (4 nps), 128MB hash, 2 threads 0:01: -2.11/1 1.Kc6 g1=Q 0:02: -2.65/2 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 0:03: -1.88/2 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 Qh1+ 0:04: -1.83/3 1.Kc6 h3 2.Ng3+ Kg5 3.Ne2 0:07: -1.27/3 1.Kc6 h3 2.Ng3+ Kg5 3.Ne2 Kf5 0:09: -3.33/4 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 Qh1+ 3.Nhf3 0:14: -3.67/4 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 Qh1+ 3.Nhf3 Qc1 0:19: -3.66/4 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 Qh1+ 3.Nhf3 Qc1 0:23: -3.65/4 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 Qh1+ 3.Nhf3 Qc1 4.Kd5 0:29: -3.42/4 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 Qh1+ 3.Nhf3 Qc1 4.Kd5 0:31: -3.33/5 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 Qh1+ 3.Nhf3 Qc1 4.Kd5 0:36: -4.32/5 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 Qh1+ 3.Nhf3 Qc1 4.Kd5 0:41: -4.48/5 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 Qh1+ 3.Nhf3 Qc1 4.Kd5 0:46: -4.19/5 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 c3 3.dxc3 Qc1 4.Nhf3 0:51: -4.02/5 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 c3 3.dxc3 Qc1 4.Nhf3 0:54: -3.83/5 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 c3 3.dxc3 Qe1 4.Nhf3 Qxc3+ 0:59: -3.75/5 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 c3 3.dxc3 Qa1 4.Nhf3 Qxc3+ ... 2:00: -3.69/7 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 Qh1+ 3.Nhf3 Qb1 4.Kd5 Qb4 5.Kd4 c3+ ... 5:03: -3.83/8 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 Qh1+ 3.Nhf3 Qc1 4.Kd5 Qc2 5.Kd4 Qb3 6.Kc5 c3 ... 10:00: -3.71/8 1.Kc6 g1=Q 2.Nxh4 Qb1 3.Nhf3 Qb2 4.Kc5 c3 5.dxc3 Qxc3+ 6.Kd5 Qe3 7.Kd6 Qb3 Eric
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24.02.2023, 12:54
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Gibt es noch mehr so schöne Studien wo die Engine blankzieht?
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#18
24.02.2023, 13:32
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AW: Behting - Machbar für (Schach-) Computer?
Für Crystal 290620 64 POPCNT ist das kein Problem.
Korrekter Zug und korrekte Bewertung.  Gruss Kurt Code:
Line 0.0 8/8/7p/3KNN1k/2p4p/8/3P2p1/8 w - - 0 1 Analysis by Crystal 290620 64 POPCNT: 1.Sf3 White is clearly better: +- (2.45) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00 1.Sf3 h3 White is clearly better: +- (2.17) Depth: 2/2 00:00:00 1.Sf3 h3 2.Kd4 White is clearly better: +- (1.80) Depth: 3/3 00:00:00 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Se6+ Kf6 3.Sf3 h3 White is clearly better: +/- (1.42) Depth: 4/7 00:00:00 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Se6+ Kf5 3.Sf3 h3 4.Sc5 White is clearly better: +/- (1.43) Depth: 5/7 00:00:00 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se2 h3 5.Kd4 The position is equal: = (0.17) Depth: 6/13 00:00:00 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sf5 Kxf3 4.Sxh4+ Ke2 5.Sxg2 Kxd2 The position is equal: = (0.08) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 1.Sg3+ hxg3 2.Sf3 Kg4 3.Ke4 h5 4.Se5+ Kg5 5.Sf3+ Kf6 6.Kf4 h4 7.Kg4 Black is better: -/+ (-1.24) Depth: 8/20 00:00:00 1.Sg3+ hxg3 2.Sf3 Kg4 3.Ke4 h5 4.Se5+ Kh4 5.Sf3+ Kh3 6.Ke3 Kg4 7.Se5+ Kg5 8.Sf3+ Kf6 9.Kf4 h4 10.Kg4 Black is better: -/+ (-1.24) Depth: 9/20 00:00:00 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 10/25 00:00:00 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 11/30 00:00:00 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 12/30 00:00:00 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 13/30 00:00:00 426kN, tb=1257 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 14/30 00:00:01 603kN, tb=2477 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 15/15 00:00:01 754kN, tb=3301 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 16/15 00:00:01 879kN, tb=3876 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 17/15 00:00:01 1299kN, tb=6642 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 18/15 00:00:01 1749kN, tb=9777 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kg4 3.Ke4 h3 4.Sf5 g1D 5.Sxh6+ Kh5 6.Sxg1 h2 7.Sf3 h1D 8.Sf5 Kg4 9.Se3+ Kg3 10.Sf5+ Kf2 11.S5d4 Dg2 12.Kf4 Dg8 13.Se5 Da8 14.Sg4+ Ke1 15.Sf3+ Ke2 16.Sge5 Dd5 17.Kf5 Db7 18.Kf4 Db4 19.Kf5 Kf2 20.Sg5 Df8+ 21.Ke4 Kg3 22.Sgf3 Dc8 23.Sd4 Black has a decisive advantage: -+ (-2.56) Depth: 19/74 00:00:02 17120kN, tb=239334 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kg4 3.Ke4 h3 4.Sf5 g1D 5.Sxh6+ Kh5 6.Sxg1 h2 7.Sf3 h1D 8.Sf5 Kg4 9.Se3+ Kg3 10.Sf5+ Kf2 11.S5d4 Db1+ 12.Kd5 Da2 13.Kc5 c3 14.dxc3 Da5+ 15.Kc4 Ke3 16.Kb3 Ke4 17.Se1 Dd5+ 18.Kb2 Db7+ 19.Sb3 Kf4 20.Sc2 Dg2 21.Sbd4 Black has a decisive advantage: -+ (-2.54) Depth: 20/79 00:00:02 18167kN, tb=257023 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kg4 3.Ke4 h3 4.Sf5 g1D 5.Sxh6+ Kh5 6.Sxg1 h2 7.Sf3 h1D 8.Sf5 Kg4 9.Se3+ Kg3 10.Sf5+ Kf2 11.S5d4 Db1+ 12.Kd5 Da2 13.Kc5 c3 14.dxc3 Da5+ 15.Kc4 Ke3 16.Kb3 Ke4 17.Se1 Dd5+ 18.Kb2 Db7+ 19.Sb3 Df7 20.Sc2 Df2 21.Sbd4 Kd3 22.Kb3 Df1 23.Sb4+ Kd2 24.Sd5 Dd3 Black has a decisive advantage: -+ (-2.62) Depth: 21/79 00:00:02 18478kN, tb=261969 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kg4 3.Sf5 h3 4.Ke4 g1D 5.Sxh6+ Kh5 6.Sxg1 h2 7.Sf3 h1D 8.Sf5 Kg4 9.Se3+ Kg3 10.Sf5+ Kf2 11.S5d4 Dg2 12.Kf4 Dg8 13.Se5 Dd5 14.Sdf3 Ke2 15.Kf5 Db7 16.Kf4 Db4 17.Kf5 Kf2 18.Sg5 Df8+ 19.Ke4 Da8+ 20.Kf4 Db8 21.Ke4 Kg3 22.Kf5 Dc8+ 23.Ke4 Dg8 24.Kf5 Dd5 25.Se4+ Kg2 26.Kf4 De6 27.Sg4 Kf1 28.Se3+ Ke2 29.Sd5 Df7+ 30.Ke5 Dg7+ 31.Kf5 Dd4 32.Sf4+ Kd1 33.Sg6 Ke1 34.Se5 Black has a decisive advantage: -+ (-2.89) Depth: 22/85 00:00:03 22844kN, tb=358478 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kg4 3.Sf5 h3 4.Ke4 g1D 5.Sxh6+ Kh5 6.Sxg1 h2 7.Sf3 h1D 8.Sf5 Kg4 9.Se3+ Kg3 10.Sf5+ Kf2 11.S5d4 Dg2 12.Kf4 Dg8 13.Se5 Dd5 14.Sdf3 Ke2 15.Kf5 Db7 16.Kf4 Db4 17.Kf5 Kf2 18.Sg5 Df8+ 19.Ke4 Da8+ 20.Kf4 Db8 21.Ke4 Kg3 22.Kf5 Dc8+ 23.Ke4 Dg8 24.Kf5 Dd5 25.Se4+ Kg2 26.Kf4 De6 27.Sg4 Kf1 28.Se3+ Ke2 29.Sd5 Df7+ 30.Ke5 Dg7+ 31.Kf5 Dd4 32.Sf4+ Kd1 33.Sg6 Ke1 34.Se5 Black has a decisive advantage: -+ (-3.33 ++) Depth: 23/85 00:00:03 26994kN, tb=413576 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kg4 3.Sf5 h3 4.Ke4 g1D 5.Sxh6+ Kh5 6.Sxg1 h2 7.Sf3 h1D 8.Sf5 Kg4 9.Se3+ Kg3 10.Sf5+ Kf2 11.S5d4 Dg2 12.Kf4 Dg8 13.Se5 Dd5 14.Sdf3 Ke2 15.Kf5 Db7 16.Kf4 Db4 17.Kf5 Kf2 18.Sg5 Df8+ 19.Ke4 Da8+ 20.Kf4 Db8 21.Ke4 Kg3 22.Kf5 Dc8+ 23.Ke4 Dg8 24.Kf5 Dd5 25.Se4+ Kg2 26.Kf4 De6 27.Sg4 Kf1 28.Se3+ Ke2 29.Sd5 Df7+ 30.Ke5 Dg7+ 31.Kf5 Dd4 32.Sf4+ Kd1 33.Sg6 Ke1 34.Se5 Black has a decisive advantage: -+ (-3.10 ++) Depth: 23/85 00:00:04 27911kN, tb=443922 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kg4 3.Sf5 h3 4.Ke4 g1D 5.Sxh6+ Kh5 6.Sxg1 h2 7.Sf3 h1D 8.Sf5 Kg4 9.Se3+ Kg3 10.Sf5+ Kf2 11.S5d4 Dg2 12.Kd5 Kg3 13.Ke4 Kg4 14.Ke3 Dh3 15.Kf2 Dh7 16.Ke3 Dd3+ 17.Kf2 Da3 18.Sh2+ Kh3 19.Shf3 Dc5 20.Ke3 De7+ 21.Kf2 Df7 22.Se2 Kg4 23.Sed4 Df4 24.Kg2 Dg3+ 25.Kf1 Db8 26.Kf2 Db6 27.Ke3 Kg3 28.Sg5 Kg2 29.Sgf3 Dd8 30.Ke4 Da8+ 31.Ke3 De8+ 32.Kf4 De7 33.Kf5 Kg3 34.Se5 Dh7+ 35.Ke6 De4 36.Sdc6 Dc2 37.Sa5 c3 38.dxc3 Dxc3 Black has a decisive advantage: -+ (-3.34) Depth: 23/110 00:00:04 30116kN, tb=483970 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kg4 3.Sf5 h3 4.Ke4 g1D 5.Sxh6+ Kh5 6.Sxg1 h2 7.Sf3 h1D 8.Sf5 Kg4 9.Se3+ Kg3 10.Sf5+ Kf2 11.S5d4 Dg2 12.Kd5 Kg3 13.Ke4 Kg4 14.Ke3 Dh3 15.Kf2 Dh7 16.Ke3 Dd3+ 17.Kf2 Da3 18.Sh2+ Kh3 19.Shf3 Dc5 20.Ke3 De7+ 21.Kf2 Df7 22.Se2 Kg4 23.Sed4 Df4 24.Kg2 Dg3+ 25.Kf1 Db8 26.Kf2 Db6 27.Ke3 Kg3 28.Sg5 Kg2 29.Sgf3 Dd8 30.Ke4 Da8+ 31.Ke3 De8+ 32.Kf4 De7 33.Kf5 Kg3 34.Se5 Dh7+ 35.Ke6 De4 36.Sdc6 Dc2 37.Sa5 c3 38.dxc3 Dxc3 Black is winning: -+ (-3.68 --) Depth: 24/87 00:00:04 32507kN, tb=525904 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kg4 3.Sf5 h3 4.Ke4 g1D 5.Sxh6+ Kh5 6.Sxg1 h2 7.Sf3 h1D 8.Sf5 Kg4 9.Se3+ Kg3 10.Sf5+ Kf2 11.S5d4 Dg2 12.Kd5 Kg3 13.Ke4 Kg4 14.Ke3 Dh3 15.Kf2 Dh7 16.Ke3 Dd3+ 17.Kf2 Da3 18.Sh2+ Kh3 19.Shf3 Dc5 20.Ke3 De7+ 21.Kf2 Df7 22.Se2 Kg4 23.Sed4 Df4 24.Kg2 Dg3+ 25.Kf1 Db8 26.Kf2 Db6 27.Ke3 Kg3 28.Sg5 Kg2 29.Sgf3 Dd8 30.Ke4 Da8+ 31.Ke3 De8+ 32.Kf4 De7 33.Kf5 Kg3 34.Se5 Dh7+ 35.Ke6 De4 36.Sdc6 Dc2 37.Sa5 c3 38.dxc3 Dxc3 Black is winning: -+ (-3.73 --) Depth: 24/87 00:00:04 33156kN, tb=535325 1.Kc6 Black is winning: -+ (-3.73 ++) Depth: 24/87 00:00:04 34494kN, tb=552465 1.Kc6 Black is winning: -+ (-3.53 ++) Depth: 24/87 00:00:04 34661kN, tb=554480 1.Kc6 Black has a decisive advantage: -+ (-3.27 ++) Depth: 24/87 00:00:04 35174kN, tb=562869 1.Kc6 Black has a decisive advantage: -+ (-2.91 ++) Depth: 24/87 00:00:04 35333kN, tb=565693 1.Kc6 Black is clearly better: -+ (-2.45 ++) Depth: 24/87 00:00:04 35625kN, tb=569549 1.Kc6 Black is clearly better: -+ (-1.84 ++) Depth: 24/87 00:00:05 36273kN, tb=577795 1.Kc6 Black is better: -/+ (-1.06 ++) Depth: 24/87 00:00:05 36944kN, tb=588775 1.Kc6 The position is equal: = (-0.06 ++) Depth: 24/87 00:00:05 38593kN, tb=628991 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 24/87 00:00:05 39300kN, tb=639144 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 25/19 00:00:05 40957kN, tb=656184 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 26/19 00:00:06 48881kN, tb=739082 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 27/19 00:00:06 56051kN, tb=808223 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 28/19 00:00:07 61230kN, tb=884373 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 29/19 00:00:08 69635kN, tb=1000267 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 30/19 00:00:11 99997kN, tb=1462688 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 31/19 00:00:15 142MN, tb=1990938 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 32/19 00:00:16 158MN, tb=2209604 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 33/19 00:00:20 191MN, tb=2654227 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 34/19 00:00:30 291MN, tb=4450456 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 35/19 00:00:51 488MN, tb=7686295 1.Kc6 g1D 2.Sxh4 Da1 3.Shf3 Da5 4.Kd6 c3 5.dxc3 Dxc3 6.Kd5 De3 7.Kc6 Da3 8.Kd5 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 36/19 00:00:56 531MN, tb=8609417 (, 24.02.2023)
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24.02.2023, 14:08
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Hallo zusammen,
leider habe ich schon die Lösung gesehen, wäre aber nicht darauf gekommen. Ich habe mal in einem anderen Forum so eine Art Spoiler-Verberge-Funktion gesehen. Geht das hier auch? Gestern Abend habe ich, während ich etwas anderes am PC gemacht habe, Stockfish 15 laufen lassen und der ist bei Rechentiefe 70 (!) nicht auf die Lösung gekommen. Viele Grüße Markus
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24.02.2023, 14:18
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AW: Behting - Machbar für (Schach-) Computer?
 Zitat von applechess
Für Crystal 290620 64 POPCNT ist das kein Problem.
Korrekter Zug und korrekte Bewertung. Gruss Kurt Code:
Line 0.0 8/8/7p/3KNN1k/2p4p/8/3P2p1/8 w - - 0 1 Analysis by Crystal 290620 64 POPCNT: 1.Sf3 White is clearly better: +- (2.45) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00 [...] 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 Ohne Tablebases! The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 10/25 00:00:00 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 11/30 00:00:00 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 12/30 00:00:00 1.Sg7+ Kg5 2.Sf3+ Kf4 3.Sg1 Kg4 4.Se6 h3 5.Sxh3 Kxh3 6.Sf4+ Kh2 7.Sxg2 Kxg2 The position is equal: = (0.00) Depth: 13/30 00:00:00 426kN, tb=1257 [...] 1.Kc6 The position is equal: = (-0.06 ++) Depth: 24/87 00:00:05 38593kN, tb=628991 Was mir auffällt, ist, dass die Engine ohne dass die Tablebases getroffen worden sind, schon die richtige Lösung hatte. (siehe schwarz markierte Hervorhebungen) An alle anderen: Habt ihr bei euren Versuchen auch Tablebases benutzt? Und falls ja: Wurde die Lösung schon angezeigt, bevor die Tablebase genutzt wurde? Viele Grüße Markus
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